. >> reporter: sure, and, you know, president obama said when he nominated senator kerry, and i think very accurately that senator kerry was essentially bread for this condition. his nats was a foreign service officer. he longed for this job for a longtime, and he didn't really make it secret that he really wanted to be secretary of state. and you see his wife next to him, theresa hines kerry. they have also signaled that this is a want, and he wanted to be chairman of the senate foreign relations committee because of his cant to b want to be involved in foreign affairs. this fits his personality, it's what he wants and it's expected that as long as he doesn't trip over himself in this hearing, and it's not expected that he will, that he will get an overwhelming amount of support from both republicans and democrats in this vote. martha: it will be interesting to see as you and bill were discussing a moment ago how much the senators use this as an opportunity to kind of flesh out john kerry's real feelings about the role of america in the world. we are in obviously troubled waters over